FrenchMachine clued me in on a couple of trip reports involving wheels and doppelgangers. Especially vivid is FunkMasterShroom's report. It opens up a world only salvianauts have ever experienced. I can't think of anyone with the same level of Frenchy's exploratory zeal. Also, he is the first person I know of who posted about wheels/gears being tended by salvia beings.
Here is a snippet from one of his old posts:
"So now I'm staring THROUGH my room which is now completely flat & see through…and on the other side of this I see the same fucking thing that I have been seeing for quite some time now. I SEE ROWS OF THESE TURNING/ROTATING GEARS/WHEELS AND A BUNCH OF THE SAME EXACT BEINGS/PEOPLE DOING SOMETHING. I cant tell if these Beings/People are operating the wheels & making them turn or if they are watching over them, but whatever it is they are definitely doing something. It’s like they are doing some kind of work. I cannot stress enough that these Beings/People are exactly the same every time I see them".
Wheels are a common theme in salvia induced visuals. The wheel phenomenon is probably why many users of salvia describe a “carnivalesque” type of sensation. I have also experienced the wheel visual. While tripping I often found my hyper-spacial self being rapidly whisked around and around. It felt like being inside a tornado, inside a hurricane – a hallucinogenic, rotating, circular behemoth containing linear spokes composed of CADlike humanoids (as if created with a computer aided design program). I still don't understand the reason for the appearance of the humanoids -- molded together like paper dolls.
The following two trip reports give compelling suggestions as to what might be occurring in an individual human being's existential life. The similar scenarios shine a fascinating and bizarre light on these structurally engineered, hyper dimensional wheels.
Both reports also mention being “squished”. I have experienced on many occasions my fleshly existence being forcefully flattened down into a topographical sense of awareness locked in between a system of layer-worlds.
Here is the first trip report from Anonymous that FM linked.
(with some grammar corrections)
"I loaded the bong full of this salvia, took as big of a rip i could...held it for as long as i could...and then it set in.--salvia-trip.net
It was at the time, I felt like i was in a different world of the living. It was controlled by a man, this man was the god of this world. It had nothing but a lot of these rotating circles. The world was white, no colors in the distance, just white. I noticed that if I looked closer at these rotating circles, they had people attached covering the edges to roll on these people as if there was a human stamp/wheel. There were 10...so that meant there were 10 people on these rotating circles. I looked closer, and it was 10 separate people identical to me. It felt like I was being squished, and almost like the edging or outline of my body, was being ripped off, and regrown as if it was being duplicated. Sure enough I was a whole army of me, being duplicated out of these 10 me as a first person view this time (it was third person up until now) and needless to say, I felt like I was stuck here, like a white oblivion created by this "god or ruler" of this world. I asked "what are you doing? Who are you?" No response...by this time, i was coming down off the trip..but I was still seeing a lot of craziness. It was starting to speed up, but then started to be a flip picture book of this white oblivion, and I heard the guy say "This is my world, how did you get here...You're not meant to be here!" and I was on the sidewalk, laying down.
My friends were looking at me like I was crazy. I asked them "What the hell guys....what the fuck just happened?" They all told me I was in the car, then outside of the car, and started to yell "WHAT THE FUCK!" at the top of my lungs, even to the point of where spit was flying from my mouth. They also said my face turned bright red. Right after that, I was sitting in the car. We drove around to get some a/c. I was truly robbed of my peace of mind. But if that wasn't enough, I hit some more salvia an hour after this. I hit it twice, and nothing happened...no new world...I just kept thinking about my previous trip, the sounds I heard, the feelings, and the thoughts I had, what was happening in this new found place? What was the guy doing? Who was he. Nothing from this experience could be explained. I still want answers. So before you think of trying salvia, you might want to reconsider it, because I know I was far from mentally prepared for this…"
Interesting so far? Now here’s FunkMasterShroom's report.
(snip) with paragraph breaks and some grammar corrections
“Now, I placed what I thought was a small amount of 20x extract into my bong, mixed with a little bit of a JWH018 smoking blend, and ripped one fat hall off it, to do a small tester dose.FunkMasterShroom
Next thing I know, I'm blasted into full salvia land. But it was lagged, like I would progress through the experience, but be lagging behind somehow, then suddenly catch up; and I/it would lag again, and catch up, and so on.
But by contrast, it seemed to be fluid at the same time. Very strange, and difficult to explain.
Now, as I feel the familiar taste, and smell, and sensations of pressure, and stretching through my body, the reality around seemed to freeze. This reality and I were almost as if between reality.
To the left of me near the door of my apartment, (I was on the living room couch), suddenly a Zipper unfolds.. Literally, a zipper in the fabric of this reality. And out through this zipper stepped two of my best friends, Shae25 here on the shroomery, and his gf, though I somehow knew it wasn’t really them. It was other beings, and they were using these forms at the moment. For my ease/familiarity, or what, idono? They both walked up to me with large grins on their faces, but a strange almost regretful look in their eyes. During this the lag-catch-up process was still happening, I believe this was due to the DXM.
Anyway, I had the most terrible feeling that something was wrong (as I often do with Salvia, not to mention a painful sensation horizontally through my face, and my waist), and A(shae's gf) started to speak to me. Saying something along the lines of "Oh, look, you smoked salvia again, we didn't expect you to do this. Don't you remember what happens? Now we have to go through all this again."
As she said this, I couldn’t find myself able to speak, but somehow I was communicating with them telepathically. And they convinced me somehow that I had to leave now. I didn't understand what that meant, but suddenly they showed me all the different frames of myself in the now moment. I could see all the different moments of me stretching off behind into the past, and way off in front of me into the future. I was looking at it from a 3rd/part perspective, and there I was sitting on the couch, with all these other moments of me going off through the walls into the past and future(what I'd consider to be depth-perception of the 4th dimension) . As I was observing this, I focused in on the person 3 moments behind where I was when I just entered this Salvia realm, and A suddenly told me that they would switch the present me, with the 3rd me 3 moments earlier.
I didn’t quite grasp what all this meant at the time, but suddenly I was back in 1st/person perspective. Shae/A turned to their right, and this giant turning wheel/cog came up out of reality into my living room. It was covered in bodies; my bodies, all wearing different outfits, a huge collection of me's piled together into this gigantic wheel. Shae/A(the beings) looked at the wheel and it rolled (like the giant wheel on the price is right), and they scanned through the bodies a bit, before stopping, and then levitated one of the me's from the wheel down next to me. At this point I was feeling my body a lot more, and It felt like my legs were stuck inside the floor/couch. I couldn’t move my lower half, and could barely move my arms, but I could look around easily enough. I felt trapped though, and it was painfully so.
As they summoned this other me next to me, he was in a catatonic like state, but was standing, and gently came out of it. He looked at me, and smiled and said Hi, and I looked back to Shae/A and they kinda smiled and shrugged. There was a very carnival-esc feeling, but with a nightmarish undertone. Big grins and smiling faces, but dark and menacing feelings in my gut/intuition..
I then began to shift to my left, and slide over towards the wheel. I suddenly got even more scared, because I wasn’t ready to leave, I didn’t even know what was going to happen. They kind of said goodbye, and just plainly watched me shift over (my legs still paralyzed feeling, I was trying to get up and stop myself) with smiles on their faces, that weird regretful look in their eyes (except the other me, I looked kinda confused, and waved at me.) Just before I was about to go into the bottom of the giant body wheel, I managed to lift my arms up, and actually open my mouth to speak. It felt as though I was sinking into a catatonic like state, like what the other me was in before he came off the wheel.
I asked out loud "What's going to happen to me!?" with and intense feeling of fear and regret for putting myself into this position (I had totally forgotten I had smoked saliva, and this all seemed vividly real, if not at all normal.)
I was sort of shifted into and under the wheel, like on a conveyor belt, and as I went under it all went black. Light appeared again, and I was in a small and yet giant square room, with other bodies of me packed onto the walls, and ceiling. There was one of me hanging from the ceiling from his waste as well, smiling down at me, with a look of "You-know-what’s-coming."
In the background outside this room, i could hear huge crashing noises, that were getting closer and closer, and it suddenly dawned on me, that I was in a crushing room: rooms where people go to be squished into liquid. I looked to either side of me down this room, and the walls were doing the horror-movie-hall-stretch thing, and I knew they were about to close in on me any moment. I looked up at the ceiling me, and said something like "Oh so this is what happens, you die(or something.. whatever just happened to me, like I said, i forgot i smoked salvia) and the 'higher' dimensional beings just squish you into nothingness.. Wonderful."
I was filled with horror, fear, and then a wave of acceptance came over me, because I knew I was stuck, and there was no way out. I said goodbye to all my loved ones, and waited, watching suddenly as the walls started rushing towards me.
Just as the walls closed in, all went black, and after a moment I was standing in my living room again. I WAS NOW THE OTHER ME THAT THEY PICKED OUT!... I could barely believe it. I was this new(old from the past) me, and had the memory of the last me just being squished and all that. It was dramatically flabbergasting. Shae/A then told me that I had to try and fit back into the right spot, before I did the trip. I then suddenly saw the 4D expression of all the other me's stretching out into the past and future, and I felt myself (remember noclipping from FPS?) go through the wall behind my couch, and try to hover/fly into the exact spot so I could return to reality.
Now this is where it got really painful, as I was starting to come back to this reality, but was somehow unable to fit right into the proper frame/position. It was exceedingly painful throughout my entire body, but particular in my lower back and my lower face; again like a horizontal line of pain in both places.
Finally I strained and pushed, and made my way into the right spot, and the time freeze left, and I looked around and noticed I didn’t even see Shae/A leave. But they were gone, and the zipper opening was gone as well.
Due to the DXM I kept having the lag effect, where I would fall back into the whole experience over and over and stay stuck in it for a few moments, before snapping back out. This was very much like vividly reliving a memory. It was strange, and I was remembering that I had just smoked salvia, and it made me feel like I couldn’t quite get myself back to normal.. Again the DXM- which I also just remembered I was on.”---
^^Pretty intense salvia trip. No wonder some people freak out while smoking salvia.
Salvia has given us a rare glimpse at a mechanical system within hyperspace that is somehow constantly replicating different versions of humans tripping on salvia (to be selectively sent back to the material world). Doppelgangers are all q'ed up as if on an assembly line. These two reports (like others I have read) give us a sense of the panic that trippers feel while struggling to find their true place in the doppelganger sequence chain. Who knows if we are the same person we were before the trip began? Perhaps we die and are born again and again and again.
Also, this fits in nicely with the ‘simulation’ hypothesis. Perhaps people tripping on salvia are able to scope-out the Matrix; and by scoping-out the Matrix, they inevitably meet up with the operator/operators of the simulation/Matrix.
These are just two reports. You could probably find twenty more similar reports on the internet.
For an alternative explanation of the doppelgangers, Google "redgreenvines frame stacking".
Later, salvia brothers and sisters.